Yesterday I sent an email to support@fromhomedataentry.com inquiring about their business. I asked Ms. Cooper some questions that my readers might want to know. Here's the email and her responses:
Ms. Cooper,
I have some questions regarding your company that I hope you can answer. Your response will allow you to add credibility to your companies line of work. Please know that your response, including any lack of response will be posted on my blog.
Q. How do companies contact you to utilize your service?
A. This information that only the owners know of and not even I in customer service am given this information.
Q. What is their benefit for using your service?
A. They benefit by knowing what on there website that they need to change to make it more effective.
Q. According to your FAQ, these companies pay you and you in return pay the reviewers. Several forums post responses from your company and indicate that no payout will be made from ANY company because of Terms of Service violations. How is it that NONE of these companies want to pay?
A. If the terms are followed then the companies will pay if they are not followed then the companies will pay. If the terms are followed on half of the assignments then you will be paid for half of the assignments.
Q. Is EVERY assignment incorrect?
A. If someone did not get paid for any assignments that means that not even one assignments were according to the terms.
Q. Why not payout from the companies that have no problem with the assignments?
A. AS was mentioned earlier any assignments that are according to the terms are paid for.
Q. If you're company has to review EVERY assignment, wouldn't you make more money doing them yourself?
A. Our company does not review any assignments, we send them to the companies so that they can review the assignments.
Q. Why do final communications from your company come after 90 days from the time the initial fee has been paid?
A. It never takes us 90 days, it takes 6-8 weeks from the time that you request payout for us to send the assignments to all of the companies and for them to reply back.
Q. Why are there no Privacy Policy, Disclaimer, or Contact information listed on your site?
A. We have the terms listed on every page of the website which is all inclusive.
Q. What were the qualifications for your site to receive a "Scam Free Certificate" from Scamfreezone.org?
A. You cannot have any outstanding complaints to remain a member of Scam Free Zone.
Q. Why are responses from your company and affiliates rude?
A. As far as what the response's are from our affiliates, unfortunately we are unable to control that. If you feel that a customer service rep is being rude to you, then please report it because we are required to be very professional.
Thank you, I look forward to your response.
Luke
Today I'm contacting the local news stations and newspapers in the Seattle, WA and Meza, AZ area to see if they can help provide additional information about Fromhomedataentry.com and Scamfreezone.org.
Now the "Contact" info for Fromhomedataentry.com state that you cannot contact them because they are concerned of spam (and they should be). However as a website owner myself I know that C-panel (the back office for websites) offers email services so you can send professional looking email.) You may recognize them from the @companyname within the email you receive (admin@companyname, support@companyname). By the way I find it interesting that Mr. Bell from Scamfreezone.org responds with a free (gmail) and unprofessional looking email account (robert.typeinternational.bell@gmail.com).
Some of you have commented that you cannot contact anyone from Fromhomedataentry.com...I'll show you how you can send them an email. You can send correspondence to support@fromhomedataentry.com, admin@fromhomedataentry.com, or even jerks@fromhomedataentry.com. They will receive ALL email. Keep in mind that they do have the option within their C-panel to block your IP address (after several emails they will), but keep at it anyway!
Saturday, February 20, 2010
Thursday, February 18, 2010
Scamfreezone.org and Fromhomedataentry.com Are Scams
Not much to report on the Fromhomedataentry.com scam unless you consider the following relevant.
Scamfreezone.org who provided them with their "scam free certificate" has some shady dealings going on. It appears Mr. Robert Bell has somewhat of an ego complex. If you recall my last post he stated in his email that I should "Get a real job and stay off the internet." So I decided to reply with the following:
Mr. Bell...not a good nor professional answer. Get a real job? That makes it sound like Fromhomedataentry.com is not a legit company. Furthermore, the original email I was going to send was going to inquire as to why your company doesn't do their own research on a company as you wanted ME to provide ALL the info. All of which can be found by doing a simple search by the way. Seems as if you have a low requirement before issuing certificates.
Now let me tell you that I have found the name Robert Bell and Typeinternational.org to be associated with their own scams. And you are providing "Scam Free Certificates"? You are the one who needs to get off the internet you F**K! (edited for this post).
As for Ms. Cooper's reply....this is not my first rodeo with companies like hers and it won't be the last one I manage to shut down. I do hope you are prepared as you state.
With that said I've updated my blog with your correspondence and will continue to expose you!
Here was his response:
"Have fun and I really wish you lots of luck in your endeavors. Sounds like you are jealous to me because I am so damm smart and have 10 Million members behind me and a large Hedge Fund who feeds me."
Well after I laughed my ass off I couldn't help but wonder why anyone would be jealous of him for being so damn smart. Damn smart because he found a way to SCAM people? That only requires a lack of conscience!
And the 10 million members...c'mon!!!! The best marketers don't have such a list...Ashton Kutcher has about 5 million followers on Twitter! I find those figures hard to believe Mr. Bell...and who gives a shit about your Hedge fund. What a shame you have to pat yourself on the back for what appears to be exaggerations.
This morning I had two emails from Mr. Bell; the first simply stated "bring it on". The second
invigorated my efforts to expose more of the facts...here's how it read:
"I would be real carefull what you say as I will sue you for whatever you have and more.I can afford very good legal people and have won many cases from assholes who let their mouth run up their asshole so go for it."
Ok Mr. Bell let me provide you with some information. As president of my own corporation I am very
familiar with how the law works (including internet laws). Fortunately; I've not found the need to seek as much legal counsel as you have (must suck...legit businesses don't have this problem). I'm only providing the FACTS that are available to EVERYONE on the internet.
As a matter of FACT, the Better Business Bureau has given two of your websites/businesses an "F" rating. See the links at end of this post.
FACT, Scamfreezone.org has a list of "Approved Scam Free Sites" that don't
even display your seal! Not to mention that most don't have Terms of Service, Privacy Policies, or
Disclaimers listed on their sites. A legitimate businesses would have ALL of them! Your own site doesn't even list them. Based off your responses and my research it's safe to say that Fromhomedataentry.com is a scam; as are you sir (and I use the term loosely).
Ok folks, if you're here because you're researching these sites then you need to know that it doesn't
matter what their "Terms" state about NO REFUNDS-NO EXCEPTIONS, you can get your fee back and seek recourse. Here's how:
If the legal time frame has past, FILE A DISPUTE ANYWAY (it creates a record). Spread the word
folks...it's the only way innocent victims can seek recourse.
BBB report for typeinternational.org
BBB report for interjobconnects.org
Scamfreezone.org who provided them with their "scam free certificate" has some shady dealings going on. It appears Mr. Robert Bell has somewhat of an ego complex. If you recall my last post he stated in his email that I should "Get a real job and stay off the internet." So I decided to reply with the following:
Mr. Bell...not a good nor professional answer. Get a real job? That makes it sound like Fromhomedataentry.com is not a legit company. Furthermore, the original email I was going to send was going to inquire as to why your company doesn't do their own research on a company as you wanted ME to provide ALL the info. All of which can be found by doing a simple search by the way. Seems as if you have a low requirement before issuing certificates.
Now let me tell you that I have found the name Robert Bell and Typeinternational.org to be associated with their own scams. And you are providing "Scam Free Certificates"? You are the one who needs to get off the internet you F**K! (edited for this post).
As for Ms. Cooper's reply....this is not my first rodeo with companies like hers and it won't be the last one I manage to shut down. I do hope you are prepared as you state.
With that said I've updated my blog with your correspondence and will continue to expose you!
Here was his response:
"Have fun and I really wish you lots of luck in your endeavors. Sounds like you are jealous to me because I am so damm smart and have 10 Million members behind me and a large Hedge Fund who feeds me."
Well after I laughed my ass off I couldn't help but wonder why anyone would be jealous of him for being so damn smart. Damn smart because he found a way to SCAM people? That only requires a lack of conscience!
And the 10 million members...c'mon!!!! The best marketers don't have such a list...Ashton Kutcher has about 5 million followers on Twitter! I find those figures hard to believe Mr. Bell...and who gives a shit about your Hedge fund. What a shame you have to pat yourself on the back for what appears to be exaggerations.
This morning I had two emails from Mr. Bell; the first simply stated "bring it on". The second
invigorated my efforts to expose more of the facts...here's how it read:
"I would be real carefull what you say as I will sue you for whatever you have and more.I can afford very good legal people and have won many cases from assholes who let their mouth run up their asshole so go for it."
Ok Mr. Bell let me provide you with some information. As president of my own corporation I am very
familiar with how the law works (including internet laws). Fortunately; I've not found the need to seek as much legal counsel as you have (must suck...legit businesses don't have this problem). I'm only providing the FACTS that are available to EVERYONE on the internet.
As a matter of FACT, the Better Business Bureau has given two of your websites/businesses an "F" rating. See the links at end of this post.
FACT, Scamfreezone.org has a list of "Approved Scam Free Sites" that don't
even display your seal! Not to mention that most don't have Terms of Service, Privacy Policies, or
Disclaimers listed on their sites. A legitimate businesses would have ALL of them! Your own site doesn't even list them. Based off your responses and my research it's safe to say that Fromhomedataentry.com is a scam; as are you sir (and I use the term loosely).
Ok folks, if you're here because you're researching these sites then you need to know that it doesn't
matter what their "Terms" state about NO REFUNDS-NO EXCEPTIONS, you can get your fee back and seek recourse. Here's how:
- Legally you have 90 days from the time you "Paid" to dispute a charge with Paypal AND your credit card company. If you don't finish your assignments or haven't received your "Payout" within 88 days (buffer zone) then contact "Paypal (or whoever the payment processor is), your credit card company, or financial institution and file a dispute for a refund immediately.
- These institutions are required by law to "Hold" funds until further investigation.
- Tell them that you believe you were scammed and state your case. Then...
- Go to the website for the BBB and FTC and file complaints with them. Follow up with your financial institution and provide them with the case numbers from your complaints. And...
- Keep ALL correspondence, including the "assignments" you received and sent (they are your proof).
If the legal time frame has past, FILE A DISPUTE ANYWAY (it creates a record). Spread the word
folks...it's the only way innocent victims can seek recourse.
BBB report for typeinternational.org
BBB report for interjobconnects.org
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
More Fromhomedataentry.com Scam Results
Ok, this post may be lengthy since I have emails to include. I contacted scamfreezone.org they provide the scam free certificate that fromhomedataentry.com uses on their site. My first correspondence came from a Mr. Robert Bell and was cc'd to the owners of fromhomedataentry.com asking them to please reply. Immediately I received a reply from a Tina Cooper (Customer Service Rep) which stated:
Hello,
It never ceases to amaze me how people twist the truth to make us sound like a scam. We have only ever given ones excuse or not paying, and that is because the work was never completed. People have submitted assignments over and over without even completing any work and then get mad at us because they are not paid.
We pay all of our members that actually do the work, and we have proof of that on our website. It really upsets me that people try to scam us and then have the audacity to turn around and lie about us making it sound like we are the scam.
I can tell you that there is no way we would even be considered to be certified scam free if we even tried to scam someone.
We all work so hard to be able to provide a legitimate opportunity for honest people to earn some extra cash, and these people are ruining it for those who are honest.
I understand if you do not trust us, because really all it comes down to is that it is our word against theres. We are not going to try to convince you to try to join something that you are uncomfortable with. We only want people to join who really want to.
Thank you,
Tina Cooper
Customer Service Rep.
From Home Data Entry
Fax +1.206.203.1718
At this point I responded to the email with the following information:
Ms. Cooper, thank you for your response. I've received an email VERY SIMILAR to this in content and tone from a site called Realdataentry.net. I've yet to figure out how your company makes money and have a few questions that I hope you can answer. First of all it's a common knowledge that you don't pay someone so you can work for them, it's a red flag for scams. Second, how do your website owners contact you? It's not listed on your site that you offer the service. I'm sorry but I have many a question that leads me to believe otherwise.
Mr. Bell, thank you for your quick reply. Per your email I would like to further state my case.
Note: Following this email are links providing support for the claims below noted by *.
Regarding the site Fromhomedataentry.com. Their Terms of Service* do not state that assignments will be reviewed. The review process takes up to 7 weeks. From the time of initial payment, adding the time it takes to complete the assignments and the review time, the legal limitations to file a claim with your credit card company (including Paypal) have been exceeded (90 days).
It also appears that this website had a Scam Freee Certitificate* from another
company at one time. Why would the last company drop them, or why did they lose their certification?
Mr. Bell if you did a "Whois" search for fromhomedataentry.com you would find that
EVERY status regarding this company shows as "Unknown" except for the servers which
are owned by them. A legitimate company would list contact information; their terms
of service indicate you can not reach them by email because of spam concerns.
Sorry, a legit company HAS to deal with spam...it's part of the business. If you
call the phone number on their site you recieve an authomated voicemail that
doesn't even tell you the name of the company you contacted.
I've done some research and have found that their Terms of Service are 75% SAME
content as the Terms of Service from another site called Realdataentry.net who has
a reputation for scamming people. As a matter of fact there are several similarities
such as, sign up fees, number of assignments that need to be completed, the Free
Trial, etcetera. It is my opinion that in fact the two companies are related/owned/operated by the same person.
There is a blog that exposes this company/person in detail*. I don't know
about you Mr. Bell but ALL these facts throw up a red flag to me! This company is
not concerned about the hard times people have come across and they have found a
way to victimize poor unsuspecting and gullible people. Your company does not want to be associated with this type of business. With today's vast social networking a bad name in e-commerce goes a long way and spreads quickly. Exposing these types of companies seem to be the only right thing to do.
Mr. Bell, once again I want to thank you for your reply. I hope I've presented a
case that warrants your immediate action to deny them a "Scamfree Certificate" and
that you understand that fromhomedataentry.com should be listed on your site as a
scam. Please do yourself and your company a favor and do a "Google" search for the
keyword fromhomedataentry (minus the .com) and notice the negative sites that are
associated with them.
My Regards,
Luke
P.S. There is enough evidence that this company could be in violation of e-commerce
fraud.
*Fromhomedataentry Terms of Service
*Email Notifications & Previous Certificates
*Blog
This morning when I checked my email I had a follow up from Mr. Bell and Ms. Cooper. Here's what Ms. Cooper had to say:
Hello,
Well I just look at your article and while there are a few similarities, you have listed a bunch of half truths. Most of what you have mentioned below is not even accurate to our site at all. The price is not the same as you stated it is and you also stated that the amount of assignments you have to complete is the same which is also not true because we do not have any minimum requirements.
You say that there is enough evidence to show that we have committed fraud, however no one has ever been able to prove that we have. We have proof that shows that we pay all of our members that follow our terms, as well as plenty of proof that any member we have not paid has not followed our terms.
Being that you are not even a member of ours I am not sure what it is that you are trying to accomplish here. It is not like we can offer you a refund or anything like that.
You are mentioning a lot of inaccurate information in your emails, so you might want to get all of your facts straight, and get all of the information before you go and try to go up against a company, because we are more than ready for whatever it is that you have to throw at us.
Here's the email from Mr. Bell:
You got your answer now stop bothering them before they sue you.Get a life and a real job and stay off the Internet.
Tsk, tsk Mr. Bell....not a good nor professional answer. In fact I did some research on Mr. Bell since his email came from a robert.typeinternational.bell@gmail.com. It seems that if you did a Google search for typeinternational (minus the .org) you will notice that Mr. Robert Bell shows up in several searches as a scam artist himself. And his company Scamfreezone.org is offering scam free
certificates?!?!! No wonder the "Whois" search form scamfreezone.org comes up with all the status listed as "Unknown"!
I'll post later my new findings and other responses from these crooks!
Hello,
It never ceases to amaze me how people twist the truth to make us sound like a scam. We have only ever given ones excuse or not paying, and that is because the work was never completed. People have submitted assignments over and over without even completing any work and then get mad at us because they are not paid.
We pay all of our members that actually do the work, and we have proof of that on our website. It really upsets me that people try to scam us and then have the audacity to turn around and lie about us making it sound like we are the scam.
I can tell you that there is no way we would even be considered to be certified scam free if we even tried to scam someone.
We all work so hard to be able to provide a legitimate opportunity for honest people to earn some extra cash, and these people are ruining it for those who are honest.
I understand if you do not trust us, because really all it comes down to is that it is our word against theres. We are not going to try to convince you to try to join something that you are uncomfortable with. We only want people to join who really want to.
Thank you,
Tina Cooper
Customer Service Rep.
From Home Data Entry
Fax +1.206.203.1718
At this point I responded to the email with the following information:
Ms. Cooper, thank you for your response. I've received an email VERY SIMILAR to this in content and tone from a site called Realdataentry.net. I've yet to figure out how your company makes money and have a few questions that I hope you can answer. First of all it's a common knowledge that you don't pay someone so you can work for them, it's a red flag for scams. Second, how do your website owners contact you? It's not listed on your site that you offer the service. I'm sorry but I have many a question that leads me to believe otherwise.
Mr. Bell, thank you for your quick reply. Per your email I would like to further state my case.
Note: Following this email are links providing support for the claims below noted by *.
Regarding the site Fromhomedataentry.com. Their Terms of Service* do not state that assignments will be reviewed. The review process takes up to 7 weeks. From the time of initial payment, adding the time it takes to complete the assignments and the review time, the legal limitations to file a claim with your credit card company (including Paypal) have been exceeded (90 days).
It also appears that this website had a Scam Freee Certitificate* from another
company at one time. Why would the last company drop them, or why did they lose their certification?
Mr. Bell if you did a "Whois" search for fromhomedataentry.com you would find that
EVERY status regarding this company shows as "Unknown" except for the servers which
are owned by them. A legitimate company would list contact information; their terms
of service indicate you can not reach them by email because of spam concerns.
Sorry, a legit company HAS to deal with spam...it's part of the business. If you
call the phone number on their site you recieve an authomated voicemail that
doesn't even tell you the name of the company you contacted.
I've done some research and have found that their Terms of Service are 75% SAME
content as the Terms of Service from another site called Realdataentry.net who has
a reputation for scamming people. As a matter of fact there are several similarities
such as, sign up fees, number of assignments that need to be completed, the Free
Trial, etcetera. It is my opinion that in fact the two companies are related/owned/operated by the same person.
There is a blog that exposes this company/person in detail*. I don't know
about you Mr. Bell but ALL these facts throw up a red flag to me! This company is
not concerned about the hard times people have come across and they have found a
way to victimize poor unsuspecting and gullible people. Your company does not want to be associated with this type of business. With today's vast social networking a bad name in e-commerce goes a long way and spreads quickly. Exposing these types of companies seem to be the only right thing to do.
Mr. Bell, once again I want to thank you for your reply. I hope I've presented a
case that warrants your immediate action to deny them a "Scamfree Certificate" and
that you understand that fromhomedataentry.com should be listed on your site as a
scam. Please do yourself and your company a favor and do a "Google" search for the
keyword fromhomedataentry (minus the .com) and notice the negative sites that are
associated with them.
My Regards,
Luke
P.S. There is enough evidence that this company could be in violation of e-commerce
fraud.
*Fromhomedataentry Terms of Service
*Email Notifications & Previous Certificates
*Blog
This morning when I checked my email I had a follow up from Mr. Bell and Ms. Cooper. Here's what Ms. Cooper had to say:
Hello,
Well I just look at your article and while there are a few similarities, you have listed a bunch of half truths. Most of what you have mentioned below is not even accurate to our site at all. The price is not the same as you stated it is and you also stated that the amount of assignments you have to complete is the same which is also not true because we do not have any minimum requirements.
You say that there is enough evidence to show that we have committed fraud, however no one has ever been able to prove that we have. We have proof that shows that we pay all of our members that follow our terms, as well as plenty of proof that any member we have not paid has not followed our terms.
Being that you are not even a member of ours I am not sure what it is that you are trying to accomplish here. It is not like we can offer you a refund or anything like that.
You are mentioning a lot of inaccurate information in your emails, so you might want to get all of your facts straight, and get all of the information before you go and try to go up against a company, because we are more than ready for whatever it is that you have to throw at us.
Here's the email from Mr. Bell:
You got your answer now stop bothering them before they sue you.Get a life and a real job and stay off the Internet.
Tsk, tsk Mr. Bell....not a good nor professional answer. In fact I did some research on Mr. Bell since his email came from a robert.typeinternational.bell@gmail.com. It seems that if you did a Google search for typeinternational (minus the .org) you will notice that Mr. Robert Bell shows up in several searches as a scam artist himself. And his company Scamfreezone.org is offering scam free
certificates?!?!! No wonder the "Whois" search form scamfreezone.org comes up with all the status listed as "Unknown"!
I'll post later my new findings and other responses from these crooks!
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
Fromhomedataentry.com Scam
Ok folks here we go again. Fromhomedataentry.com seems to be the spawn of Realdataentry.net. Remember them? They were a spinoff of Dataprocessors.org. Their scam has once again been refined and it's time to expose and shut down their site.
Here's what they've changed: the terms of service are now listed on their site, make sure you READ THEM. If you remember in one of my earlier post I mentioned the terms were not listed until after you upgrade. Here's a shock...75% of the content from their terms are duplicate to the terms for realdataentry.net!
They've also added a "Scam Free Certification" to their site...I'm currently researching this and I'll let you know my results as it appears this is their second certification. Wonder why the first one dumped them?!?!
They've added a phone number to their site that when called does not identify the name of the company....you only get to leave a message. Looks professional but then again so did the other site that made you feel all warm and fuzzy by pushing the family thing. Remember my tip about using the site Whois.net? Well it seems ALL the information for this site is listed as unknown except for the name of the servers they use (which they own).
Anyhow, stay tuned as I have been doing other research and I'll post those findings as soon as I can.
Here's what they've changed: the terms of service are now listed on their site, make sure you READ THEM. If you remember in one of my earlier post I mentioned the terms were not listed until after you upgrade. Here's a shock...75% of the content from their terms are duplicate to the terms for realdataentry.net!
They've also added a "Scam Free Certification" to their site...I'm currently researching this and I'll let you know my results as it appears this is their second certification. Wonder why the first one dumped them?!?!
They've added a phone number to their site that when called does not identify the name of the company....you only get to leave a message. Looks professional but then again so did the other site that made you feel all warm and fuzzy by pushing the family thing. Remember my tip about using the site Whois.net? Well it seems ALL the information for this site is listed as unknown except for the name of the servers they use (which they own).
Anyhow, stay tuned as I have been doing other research and I'll post those findings as soon as I can.
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